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Post by Swimfast on Aug 3, 2009 14:15:22 GMT -5
I think the everything is cool, expect the combining of the clans.
It's kind of confusing, and what would happen after all this is over, would everything just go back to normal?
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Post by Crowy on Aug 4, 2009 11:52:06 GMT -5
well guys, in the book, There was Lionclan and Tigerclan. Tigerclan was Shadowclan and Riverclan, Lionclan wqas Windclan and Thunderclan (and then Shadowclan and Riverclan joined) to defeat Bloodclan.
This is NOT a way to defeat the Dead Plains. If you actually read it Mirage, you would have seen I had introduced a male led clan. They treat females like dirt and steal any she-cats they can get their hands on from the clans.
Now, to be honest Riverclan might be provoked into joining with Thunderclan because they may have had many she-cats stolen by Fireclan. FIRECLAN, not the Dead Plains.
After the merging in the book, everyone went to normal because they only merged for a battle. Shadowclan would make an alliance with Fireclan, forming Duskclan. Windclan Thunderclan and Riverclan are all 'ooh what do we do', so, the three leaders have a private gathering which the medicne cats of their clans discussed [but they did not tell the Shadowclan med cat]. The three leaders go together and discuss. Maybe only Thunderclan and Windclan join together, so fine. You don't want Riverclan in this plot, be my guest. It'll be your loss.
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Post by Mirrored Light on Aug 4, 2009 11:56:52 GMT -5
I'm simply pointing out Lightstar would fight Dead Plains / FireClan / DuskClan, but they would rather do it without creating an alliance close enough to be named. Lightstar would lead his Clan to the main battle, beat the other cats, and then leave; with his own Clan.
So far, where are you going to get enough male cats to fight, anyway? Females are already higher in count than males, and if you tried to take Clan females prisoner they'd band together and try to run away. It wouldn't be hard for a group of warriors to escape.
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Post by Swimfast on Aug 4, 2009 11:56:56 GMT -5
Aww, I want Riverclan in the plot.
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Post by Fuzzybreath on Aug 4, 2009 11:58:11 GMT -5
Will kits be stolen?
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Post by Crowy on Aug 4, 2009 12:02:46 GMT -5
^Probably
Well, seriously now Mirage. Riverclan isn't all that powerful. Fireclan is made of cats from the city, hardened, tought cats who are much like Bloodclan. You can't say "oh yeah lolol riverclan will kick their butts without question"
you just can't. That would seriously screw up the plot. It really would. It would make me kind of annoyed too, because one clan can't defeat an alliance. Imagine, if in WW1 or WW2, just the UK went against all of Germany, Italy, Russia, France, Belgium, America. An alliance like that? Pah, we'd be annihalated.
You just can't say "yeah riverlcan will rush in kill coldpaw and save the day woohoo"
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Post by Mirrored Light on Aug 4, 2009 12:02:54 GMT -5
Look, I'm not trying to sa the plot is bad or anything, I'm just trying to make sure you work out all the details so it actually works out as a plot. I'm not trying to be mean, either - I think if we're going to have a big site plot, we need to make sure that all the details will match to fit the current Hierarchy and make-up of all the Clans.
Unfotunately at the moment... for this I don't have an example. -_-
EDIT; RiverClan will be at the battlefield, fight, and go home. I never said they would win or that they would be the only ones fighting. It would be a more organized fight if we go in waves, rotating on which Clan attacks FireClan instead of having a violent battle in one huge thread with a mass of cats.
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Post by Crowy on Aug 4, 2009 12:06:19 GMT -5
right.
I'm on a site where there is a group run by all males. The leader is a male, the deputy is a male, the healer is a male. The highest ranking female is the mate of the leader, but she can still get the crap beaten out of her for stepping out of line. It works beautifully there, and so what if this plot will only last a few months. Dead Plains are only managing that.
Fireclan are more like that group than a clan. The leader doesn't receive nine lives unless you want to involve Darkclan giving tehm nine lives.
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Post by Swimfast on Aug 4, 2009 12:08:11 GMT -5
Was Riverclan not going to be included in the plot in the first place?
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Post by Crowy on Aug 4, 2009 12:10:26 GMT -5
^no it's just Mriage doesn't want them in the plot.
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Post by Mirrored Light on Aug 4, 2009 12:13:59 GMT -5
I never said that I didn't want RiverClan in the plot; I don't want them getting 'close' to another Clan, because we have to face it, there are too many half-Clan cats than there should be around the Clans and the roleplay greatly differs from the books. Lightstar wouldn't like the idea of merging the Clan, and I talked to Charbs and Tinyfang wouldn't do it by choice either. If you want Lightstar to form 'StormClan' or whatever, someone's going to have to be pushing him into a corner. Otherwise, he's not helping the other Clans until the big battle to drive the rogues out. (By whatever name they're being called then)
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Post by Swimfast on Aug 4, 2009 16:09:48 GMT -5
You could do both...maybe.......
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Post by Chachafu on Aug 4, 2009 21:14:25 GMT -5
Uh Swimmy, let's stay out of this right now. Mir-Mir and Brokensoul are working things out so let them decide.
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Post by Swimfast on Aug 11, 2009 18:27:08 GMT -5
Ok, that's probably a good idea. I was just trying to help. 
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Post by padamay on Aug 17, 2009 0:45:37 GMT -5
It would be cool if Females were taken prisoner, like Mir Mir said. If that whats happening, I want Dawnlight to be kidnapped, or whatever to make Riverclan week. I love Riverclan, but it would be cool! Oh, Dawnlight could have kits bye a tom or something.
*Writing this down on a pecie of paper and locking it in a box*
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Post by Falconheart on Sept 5, 2009 16:05:09 GMT -5
Wait...
So Fireclan is a bunch of rapists, basically?
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Post by Chachafu on Sept 5, 2009 20:16:38 GMT -5
Lol, you make it sound so bad Falcon.
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Post by Crowy on Sept 6, 2009 5:12:39 GMT -5
Wait... So Fireclan is a bunch of rapists, basically?
-_-
no, female opressors. Like the males are the top dawgs and the females are just there to create more males. |
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Post by Falconheart on Sept 6, 2009 10:15:39 GMT -5
k. I get it. Sorry...
*hides in corner, drinks coffee*
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Post by Crowy on Sept 9, 2009 10:14:17 GMT -5
k. I get it. Sorry... *hides in corner, drinks coffee*
*takes away coffee*
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